Immigration Law


I’ve been living in Carolina for awhile now.  Today represents the 4,423rd consecutive day that I’ve left my property carrying my ID.

This includes 100% of my trips to the ice cream cone store.

Just sayin’.

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5 comments
  1. dedc79 said:

    NPR in DC had a discussion on voter id requirements this morning. What nobody mentioned is that if republicans didn’t think such restrictions would lower voter turnout, why would they pass these laws? Either there is widespread voter fraud, which such laws would stop, and turnout would decline, or the whole thing is a myth. What the voter id supporters wouldn’t acknowledge is that these restrictions don’t stop fraud as much as they stop democratic constituencies from voting.

    The reality is that voter fraud is virtually non-existent. We can barely get most people to vote once, let alone twice. This is a city vs. rural issue and city voters tend to vote to the left of rural voters. Rural voters all need to drive so they all have drivers licenses. Many city dwellers don’t own cars and have no need for a driver’s license.

    • pino said:

      if republicans didn’t think such restrictions would lower voter turnout

      I’ll readily stipulate that the voters most impacted by this law trend to vote for the Democrat.

      Either there is widespread voter fraud, which such laws would stop, and turnout would decline

      If there is fraud, the we would want that fraudulent volume to go away.

      or the whole thing is a myth.

      Or the whole thing is a myth; I agree. I don’t think there is that much fraud going on-I buy the Democrat’s argument.

      I suspect that the voters, not members of congress but voters, who support these laws have images of ACORN and illegal immigrants in their head. While there are many many stories of hearing how ACORN <registers voters fraudulently, there isn’t that evidence to suggest that those voters then go vote using that fraudulent name. However, I think the real fear is that an individual here in the country is voting.

      And that seems to me to be a valid fear. If we were writing election laws today, I can’t imagine that we wouldn’t require valid documentation. And while I do buy your arguments that Republicans may be targeting the left leaning voters, the same argument an be used in reverse. That is, Democrat congressmen don’t support it because they know that the people who would be impacted [ACORN and illegal immigrants] wouldn’t get to vote.

      So, to me it comes down to two things:

      1. Is it the proper thing to do? And to me, having to prove that you are you is reasonable. After all, city dwellers have to have ID to buy a beer, right?

      2. Now that we find ourselves in a position where you DON’T have to prove identity, is the cost worth the gain? And I don’t think it is.

      So, while I don’t support the passing of the bill, I support the idea behind it.

      • dedc79 said:

        damnit, we kind of agree on something. Not sure what to do….

      • pino said:

        damnit, we kind of agree on something. Not sure what to do….

        I found that reflectionephemeral and I agree over at your place today as well.

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